Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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Before I left I said this in a WT answer

by Chook in

this when i believed, i said no one really believes armageddon is imminent because we would sell our possessions and preach the remaining short time , i said we all like a each way bet.

i was always a loose canon with the microphone.

i once said if bible was in movie form jws would be forbidden to watch..

Brokeback Watchtower

About 4or 5 years before I left I was contradicting the WT Society's statements while answering at the meeting and giving talks as an elder, I got so uncomfortable that I removed myself from being an elder even though the CO tried to get me to stay on as one. It took a few more years after that of listening to their bull shit that I stopped going to meetings and with in a year I was no longer a believer(2001 February).

That was a real struggle for me to break free of this utter infantile bull shit.

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Making Every Thought Captive To Christ(Washing the Brain Of Good Reasoning)

by Brokeback Watchtower in

not a very good idea to say the least.

when i read paul's words the more i see how delusional the guy was.

he was a genuine religious fanatic who contradicts jesus words on the sermon on the mount.. 2 corinthians 10:5 5we demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to christ.. delusional and in need of some serious psychological help.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrmxjaJu0bc

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Making Every Thought Captive To Christ(Washing the Brain Of Good Reasoning)

by Brokeback Watchtower in

not a very good idea to say the least.

when i read paul's words the more i see how delusional the guy was.

he was a genuine religious fanatic who contradicts jesus words on the sermon on the mount.. 2 corinthians 10:5 5we demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to christ.. delusional and in need of some serious psychological help.

Brokeback Watchtower

2 Corinthians 12New International Version (NIV)

Paul’s Vision and His Thorn

12 I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to be gained, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord. 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3 And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. 5 I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weaknesses. 6 Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say, 7 or because of these surpassingly great revelations.

Paul vision on the road to hunt down more followers of Christ, and other heavenly visions was probably cause by temporal lobe epilepsy. Also notice Paul mock humility which he fools himself and others who accept his offered credentials.

Paul's temporal lobe epilepsy explained:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1032067/pdf/jnnpsyc00553-0001.pdf

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

Brokeback Watchtower

I have no firm beliefs but I trust science to give me answers. I have a niggling suspicion we might be all in a computer simulation but no beliefs in such.

I don't see any advantage to really believe what people say about their imaginary deity friend.

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Making Every Thought Captive To Christ(Washing the Brain Of Good Reasoning)

by Brokeback Watchtower in

not a very good idea to say the least.

when i read paul's words the more i see how delusional the guy was.

he was a genuine religious fanatic who contradicts jesus words on the sermon on the mount.. 2 corinthians 10:5 5we demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to christ.. delusional and in need of some serious psychological help.

Brokeback Watchtower

Paul definitely was a religious fanatic and it seemed to me he thought a little too much of himself and a very warp sense of his birth right:

2Cor. 11

16 I repeat: Let no one take me for a fool. But if you do, then tolerate me just as you would a fool, so that I may do a little boasting. 17 In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool. 18 Since many are boasting in the way the world does, I too will boast. 19 You gladly put up with fools since you are so wise! 20 In fact, you even put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you or takes advantage of you or puts on airs or slaps you in the face. 21 To my shame I admit that we were too weak for that!

Whatever anyone else dares to boast about—I am speaking as a fool—I also dare to boast about. 22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they Abraham’s descendants? So am I. 23 Are they servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again.

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What religions/organizations aren't a cult?

by Jules Saturn in

so we've already established that most religions can be classified as high control groups, we can name the wbts, church of scientology, lds, etc.

the list goes on and on.

but are there any religions or organizations that aren't classified as a high control group or aren't as bad as the ones i've just mentioned?

Brokeback Watchtower

It's good enough for this discussion regardless.

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Suing The Watchtower Corporation For Pain And Suffering Caused By Clandestine Trial Of Corporatly Biased Impartial Judges (A Real Ordeal)

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i mean they routinely question the "invited" guest of dishonor to their proceedings: if they have any prohibited recording devices and won't allow any witnesses to be present.

this is cruelly horrible treatment of a human being,, i say this can be a slam dunk in the courts.

maybe not millions but definitely some nice returns for the person and his lawyer.

Brokeback Watchtower

I mean they routinely question the "invited" guest of dishonor to their proceedings: if they have any prohibited recording devices and won't allow any witnesses to be present. This is cruelly horrible treatment of a human being,, I say this can be a slam dunk in the courts. Maybe not millions but definitely some nice returns for the person and his lawyer. I'm mean it sounds so hideous there has got some kind of lawsuit to beat these suckers back on their secret trial bull shit.

And news worthy too when and if it happens.

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Making Every Thought Captive To Christ(Washing the Brain Of Good Reasoning)

by Brokeback Watchtower in

not a very good idea to say the least.

when i read paul's words the more i see how delusional the guy was.

he was a genuine religious fanatic who contradicts jesus words on the sermon on the mount.. 2 corinthians 10:5 5we demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to christ.. delusional and in need of some serious psychological help.

Brokeback Watchtower

Not a very good idea to say the least. When I read Paul's words the more I see how delusional the guy was. He was a genuine religious fanatic who contradicts Jesus words on the sermon on the mount.

2 Corinthians 10:5 5We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Delusional and in need of some serious psychological help. He's the one who said to disfellowship people that don't do what he says. He even wish for those who promote circumcision would emasculate themselves.

This is religious indoctrination that knows know bounds.

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What religions/organizations aren't a cult?

by Jules Saturn in

so we've already established that most religions can be classified as high control groups, we can name the wbts, church of scientology, lds, etc.

the list goes on and on.

but are there any religions or organizations that aren't classified as a high control group or aren't as bad as the ones i've just mentioned?

Brokeback Watchtower

It all depends on what you understand the word cult to mean:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

The term cult usually refers to a social group defined by its religious, spiritual, or philosophical beliefs, or its common interest in a particular personality, object or goal. The term itself is controversial and it has divergent definitions in both popular culture and academia and it also has been an ongoing source of contention among scholars across several fields of study.[1][2] In the sociological classifications of religious movements, a cult is a social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices,[3] although this is often unclear.[4][5][6] Other researchers present a less-organized picture of cults on the basis that cults arise spontaneously around novel beliefs and practices.[7] The word "cult" has always been controversial because it is (in a pejorative sense) considered a subjective term, used as an ad hominem attack against groups with differing doctrines or practices.[8][9] Groups said to be cults range in size from local groups with a few members to international organizations with millions.[10]

Beginning in the 1930s, cults became the object of sociological study in the context of the study of religious behavior.[11] From the 1940s the Christian countercult movement has opposed some sects and new religious movements, and it labelled them as cults for their "un-Christian" unorthodox beliefs. The secular anti-cult movement began in the 1970s and it opposed certain groups, often charging them with mind control and partly motivated in reaction to acts of violence committed by some of their members. Some of the claims and actions of the anti-cult movements have been disputed by scholars and by the news media, leading to further public controversy.

The term "new religious movement" refers to religions which have appeared since the mid-1800s. Many, but not all of them, have been considered cults. Sub-categories of cults include: Doomsday cults, political cults, destructive cults, racist cults, polygamist cults, and terrorist cults. Governmental reactions to cult-related issues have also been a source of controversy.

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The Psychology Of Conformity

by Brokeback Watchtower in

are you one of those rare nonconformist?

i try to be,, i think it is healthy for the brain not to be a conformist.

not to simply do what conforms to the masses make the brain work more as opposed to doing what the masses do.

Brokeback Watchtower

Are you one of those rare nonconformist? I try to be,, I think it is healthy for the brain not to be a conformist. Not to simply do what conforms to the masses make the brain work more as opposed to doing what the masses do. Becoming who you are instead of just a cog in the wheel, part of the herd. Cult conformity leads to brain shrinkage,,, doing what the Watchtower corporation tell you to do and not thinking for yourself, and they don't have good motives,,it is simply corporation survival,,(run by a bunch of delusional ass hole called the Governing Body).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARGczzoPASo